Ryno Johannes Van Der Riet
(1758-1828)

Ryno Johannes Van Der Riet ² ^,3

Born: 3 Dec 1758 ²
Christened: 10 Dec 1758
Marriage (1): Anna Maria Van Ryneveld about 1800 ³
Marriage (2): Johanna Sophia Werndly on 25 Apr 1779
Marriage (3): Johanna Herold on 12 Apr 1801
Died: 1828 aged 70 ²

Family Links

Spouses/Children:

bullet Birth Notes:

http://www.geni.com/people/Ryno-Van-der-Riet/6000000006132984011

And

http://ancestry24.com/wp-content/uploads/pages/Genealogies%20of%20old%20South%20African%20Families/page_02841.pdf

bullet Christening Notes:

http://vanderrietconnection.blogspot.com/

bullet Death Notes:

http://www.geni.com/people/Ryno-Van-der-Riet/6000000006132984011

And

http://ancestry24.com/wp-content/uploads/pages/Genealogies%20of%20old%20South%20African%20Families/page_02841.pdf

bullet Sources of information or noted events in his life were:

• Occupation. ³ Landrost of Stellenbosch.

31 Aug 2013
The above is from AJVR. Certainly there is no record of a Landrost at Stellenbosch with this name (that I could find).

• General Comment. 31 Aug 2013. He is a mystery. The record comes from AJVR and occurs in an Excel spreadsheet in RAB's possession.

1) There was no Ryno Cornelis Van Der Riet who was Landdrost of Stellenbosch.
2) There was a Ryno Johannes Van Der Riet who Landdrost of Stellenbosch. He was firmly married between the years 1779 to 1880 to Johanna Werndly and then from 1801-1828 to Johanna Herold. He died in 1828. Ergo he did not marry Anna Maria Van Ryneveld.
3) Dr. Johannes Van Der Riet and Maria Berthauld de St. Jean had the following known children.

1) Martha Cornelia (3/5/1754 - 15/2/1760)!
2) Pieter Albertus (1/12/1755 - )
3) Catharina Alida (10/8/1757 - 9/12/1757)!
4) Ryno Johannes (3/12/1758 - 1828)
5) Maria Johanna (6/2/1760 - 12/2/1760)!
6) Martha Cornelia (25/7/1761 - )
7) Johannes (18/5/1763 - 12/5/1764)!
8) Johannes (23/8/1765 - 10/6/1769)!
9) Maria Johanna (28/11/1767- )
10) Catharina Hester (13/8/1769 - 24/4/1771)!

ergo Ryno Cornelis Van Der Riet is not a known son.

16 Nov 2013

On perusing the Van Ryneveld Family Records there is a discrepancy. The notes record him as Ryno Johannes Van Der Riet (1758-1828)
This is a perfect match to the above.

Time Line Analysis.
He married Johanna Werndly on 25 Apr 1779. She died Abt 1800
He married Johanna Herold on 12 Apr 1801. He died in 1828. He predeceased her - she died in 1861.
Ergo the only time he could have married Anna Maria Van Ryneveld is between 1800 and 12 Apr 1801 and she must have died before 12 Apr 1801.

• Occupation. He was Landdrost of Stellenbosch at 37 years old.

And

Ryno Johannes Van Der Riet (1758 - 1828) was Landrost of Stellenbosch, 1795-1812.
http://books.google.co.za/books?id=7z4DeizghM8C&pg=PA93&lpg=PA93&dq=van+der+riet+landrost+stellenbosch&source=bl&ots=5sOXbBbLV8&sig=0UYqNIfKk2ZWD0brSicbSfdviHA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=lYgwUb-rLYTK0AX_2IDIBg&sqi=2&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=van%20der%20riet%20landrost%20stellenbosch&f=false

And

http://ancestry24.com/wp-content/uploads/pages/Genealogies%20of%20old%20South%20African%20Families/page_02841.pdf

And

Van Ryenveld Family Records
He was Landrost from 1795-1812.

• Web Based Info. http://www.geni.com/people/Ryno-Van-der-Riet/6000000006132984011

And

http://vanderrietconnection.blogspot.com/

Ryno married Anna Maria Van Ryneveld, daughter of Daniel Van Ryneveld and Anna Grové, about 1800.³ (Anna Maria Van Ryneveld was born on 19 Apr 1767 ³ and died before 12 Apr 1801.)

Ryno next married Johanna Sophia Werndly, daughter of Ds. Johannes Werndly and Baroness Pietronella Van Rheede Van Oudtshoorn, about 1800. (Johanna Sophia Werndly was born about 1757 in , , Batavia and died about 1800.)

bullet Sources of information or n events in their marriage were:

• Web Based Info. http://ancestry24.com/wp-content/uploads/pages/Genealogies%20of%20old%20South%20African%20Families/page_02841.pdf

Ryno next married Johanna Herold, daughter of Johan Willem Herold and Elisabeth Van Dijk, about 1800. (Johanna Herold was christened on 7 Jun 1781 and died in 1861.)

bullet Sources of information or n events in their marriage were:

• Web Based Info. In the two documents below Ryno Johannes Van Der Riet is married to Johanna Sophia Werndly in 1800 and to Johanna Herold in 1801. Therefore she must have died in 1800/1801.

National Archives of South Africa

DEPOT KAB
SOURCE 1/STB
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 18/21
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 27
PART 1
DESCRIPTION VAN DER RIET, RYNO JOHANNES. EN WERNDLY, JOHANNA SOPHIA. TESTAMENT.
STARTING 18000000
ENDING 18000000

And

DEPOT KAB
SOURCE 1/STB
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 18/21
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 47
PART 1
DESCRIPTION VAN DER RIET, JOHANNES. EN HEROLD, JOHANNA. TESTAMENT.
STARTING 18010000
ENDING 18010000

And

http://ancestry24.com/wp-content/uploads/pages/Genealogies%20of%20old%20South%20African%20Families/page_02841.pdf

Van Ryneveld Table of Contents | Van Ryneveld Surnames | Van Ryneveld Name List

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Ryno Johannes Van Der Riet 2,3

Ryno Johannes Van Der Riet ² ^,3