Elizabeth Wilhelmina Van Ryneveld ¹ ^,2 ^,10

Born: 1864, Uitenhage, Eastern Cape, South Africa ¹ ^,2 ^,10
Died: 1936, , Cape Province, South Africa aged 72 ¹ ^,2 ^,10

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bullet Birth Notes:

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And

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bullet Death Notes:

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And

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bullet Sources of information or noted events in her life were:

• General Comment. ² She was deaf and dumb.

And

Elizabeth (Bessie) van Ryneveld (1864 - 1936)
As seen by Goddaughter
"She was deaf and dumb as a result of meningitis as a child. (Meningitis in those days was treated as sunstroke or "fever" and very few children survived it. The survivors were often deaf and dumb or mentally handicapped. Bessie, however, was very bright.) She was reputed to be well provided for. She was my Godmother, and, as a child I lived in a state of perpetual expectation, with hope running high as each birthday approached. Alas, I was always doomed to disappointment, as every birthday I would get the same letter and a VERY SMALL handkerchief.
She was quite an autocrat was Aunt Bessie and she refused to be left out of any conversation just because she was deaf and dumb. She would carry a slate around with her, and whenever she thought the conversation was getting interesting she would bang on the slate until someone had obligingly written down the gossip.
She was like a magpie too, and used to collect anything - even if it didn't happen to belong to her. She had boxes and boxes and trunks of stuff, linen some said family silver, and goodness knows what. My mother always said that when Aunt Bessie died we must all club together to send her down to Cape Town to get her share of the swag (and some of her own possessions). But unfortunately, by the time the old lady died, sundry boarding house keepers, companions etc (and some nastily said the lawyers) had plundered the hoard and only a few worthless bits and pieces were left - and precious little money.
I think the only time I ever got a real present from her was when she insisted on visiting a school camp I was attending at Buffels Bay. There were about 100 of us boys and girls at the camp and it was at Buffels Bay near Cape Point, next to the beach and only approachable by a narrow and rather rough path from the main road about a mile away. But nothing would put the old lady off. She announced that she wanted to see me and my poor Mother who was in Cape Town at the time had to try and organise it. The only way to do this was to ask the Camp Manager to send some of the staff and the very senior boys up to meet her and half carry her down the hill, while she gibbered at them in her unintelligible way. I was so ashamed of all this that I would have willingly died and the magnificent sovereign that she gave me in no way compensated for my acute embarrassment. In any case my Mother took charge of the sovereign 'for safe keeping' and, as we were chronically broke, I am sure it was soon sold to keep the wolf from the door."

• Web Based Info. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/individual_record.asp?recid=100300216237&lds=1®ion=0®ionfriendly=&juris1=&juris2=&juris3=&juris4=®ionfriendly=&juris1friendly=&juris2friendly=&juris3friendly=&juris4friendly=

And

http://ancestry24.com/wp-content/uploads/pages/Genealogies%20of%20old%20South%20African%20Families/page_02858.pdf

• Estate. National Archives of South Africa

DEPOT KAB
SOURCE MOOC
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 6/9/4826
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 51902
PART 1
DESCRIPTION VAN RYNEVELD, ELIZABETH WILHELMINA. ESTATE PAPERS.
STARTING 19360000
ENDING 19360000

• General Comment. Copy of her father - Helperus Ritzema Van Ryneveld's Death Notice #2954 filed 6 Oct 1906 in RAB's possession.

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Caveat:- Throughout the project UK GRO birth, marriage and death index data appears. The GRO data appears in Quarters. Q1 = January, February and March, Q2 = April, May, June , Q3 = July, August and September and Q4 = October, November and December. Similarly, Mar Q = January, February and March, Jun Q = April, May, June , Sep Q = July, August and September and Dec Q = October, November and December. Where these dates occur, they represent the date of Registration of the event rather than the date of the actual event. Logically, registration occurs AFTER the event. In some cases this may be days or months or even years after the event. The important thing is that the event was recorded and a copy of the document of registration could be obtained if necessary. This also applies to South African NAAIRS records.

Similarly, the UK system is confusing to the uninitiated because registration districts can span several counties. Accordingly GRO locations may not record the true location of the event. They do record where the record is actually kept or recorded.

Caveat #2:- I have used URL's throughout the website as sources. The URLs are often from paid subscription sites so you may not be able to access them without an account. Inevitably there are broken URL's. I have been to every URL recorded here and at the time they were operational. In this regard, the Ancestry24 records are a problem. There are numerous references in the South African data citing Ancestry24 records. Unfortunately Ancestry24 has closed down and these records are no longer available on line.

The early South African records on this site would not have been as good as they are without the work done by Delia Robertson. Where there are website addresses containing http://www.e-family.co.za... I record the citation should read Robertson, Delia. The First Fifty Years Project. This website can be found at First Fifty Years

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